tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post4418779809237142725..comments2024-03-24T21:42:17.025-04:00Comments on Loose Threads: <small>Yet Another Costuming Blog</small>: An Interesting Viking FabricCathy Raymondhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-74829426987963490002021-06-25T09:32:36.517-04:002021-06-25T09:32:36.517-04:00"Four years on, and there doesn't appear ..."Four years on, and there doesn't appear to be any further information published. :(" <br /><br />Fiona, I share your unhappiness, but I'm not surprised. Textile archaeology gets more love than it used to, but not much more, and many activities came to a screeching halt last year because of the COVID lockdowns. Hopefully, there will be an analysis eventually.Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-37836893197349758032021-06-25T03:52:17.238-04:002021-06-25T03:52:17.238-04:00Four years on, and there doesn't appear to be ...Four years on, and there doesn't appear to be any further information published. :(<br />To me it looks like the diagonals are the twill pattern. The light coloured stripes do not have a weave or fibre pattern in them that I can see - they look like very fine sand/dirt particles. That leads me to wonder if it was a striped fabric, or if it was finely pleated like the Kostrup smokkr, Pskov neckline, or the side panels on the Skjold tunic. There are one or two images on guldgubber that show what could be stripes or pleats on cloaks, which would place them over any brooches. <br /><br />It will be very interesting to see what future analysis shows.fiona eleanorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06301150125788852026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-48852308987542315252017-01-11T11:34:28.472-05:002017-01-11T11:34:28.472-05:00That makes sense to me, Marled. I wish I had a be...That makes sense to me, Marled. I wish I had a better idea of the scale of the bit of fabric shown in the photograph, but I'm guessing from the article that those stripes are very fine indeed.Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-75357807041618580932017-01-11T10:48:13.005-05:002017-01-11T10:48:13.005-05:00Yes, I agree. So my very cautious guess in looking...Yes, I agree. So my very cautious guess in looking at the photo is: stripes run vertically, twill runs diagonal.Marledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18397953051393777514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-76781519387956242362017-01-03T16:51:17.660-05:002017-01-03T16:51:17.660-05:00It might be a mix of diagonal twill and diagonal s...It might be a mix of diagonal twill and diagonal stripes, Marled. But it's undeniably fascinating, and I have heard of no find quite like it, which is why I wanted to "boost the signal", so to speak, and get reactions from friends who know more about early period textiles than the average historical costumer. <br /><br />My guess--and it's a pure guess, given my poor skill at analyzing weaves--is that the stripes are not diagonally placed on the fabric but are formed by using different colored yarns in the twill weave. Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-67404837736108670142017-01-03T11:21:00.379-05:002017-01-03T11:21:00.379-05:00It might be a mix up of diagonal twill (kiper) and...It might be a mix up of diagonal twill (kiper) and diagonal stripes!Marledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18397953051393777514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-38010822727409036032017-01-03T11:20:46.285-05:002017-01-03T11:20:46.285-05:00Anna-Carin--thanks for the correction.
Your tho...Anna-Carin--thanks for the correction. <br /><br />Your thought about the twill having warp and weft in different colors parallels Shelagh's and you both could be right; I just don't have very good skills at analyzing weaves.Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-8086128604163067432017-01-03T09:39:41.016-05:002017-01-03T09:39:41.016-05:00The caption says "narrow diagonal stripes in ...The caption says "narrow diagonal stripes in alternating dark and light color", so I'm thinking maybe some over-zealous editor has messed with the image. I.e., somebody who didn't read the text properly rotated the image 45 degrees and cropped it, because they thought it was shot at an odd angle. (BTW, it says the fabric is from the top of the brooch, not the reverse.)<br /><br />Maybe a diagonal twill where warp and weft are different fibers, and different colors (e.g. linsey-woolsey)?Anna-Carinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05135589709144066670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-1034587512730031742017-01-02T17:03:16.142-05:002017-01-02T17:03:16.142-05:00I don't really know the answer to your questio...I don't really know the answer to your question, Shelagh. All I know is the reference to "diagonal stripes" in the caption on the Museum's article page, and what can be gleaned from the photo the Museum published, which I've reproduced with my post. I will say, based upon the photo, that this doesn't look like stripes formed by the different colored warp/weft effect to me; they almost look painted on, though there's no mention of that as a possibility in the article. It will be interesting to see what analysis of this find reveals.Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-931624159383061202017-01-02T15:58:22.849-05:002017-01-02T15:58:22.849-05:00Are the diagonal stripes formed by having diagonal...Are the diagonal stripes formed by having diagonal twill with different colours for warp and weft?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02922327113784175177noreply@blogger.com