tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post3654316813745704809..comments2024-03-24T21:42:17.025-04:00Comments on Loose Threads: <small>Yet Another Costuming Blog</small>: Bronze Age Zipper?Cathy Raymondhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-60545748553500626332017-09-14T10:21:28.732-04:002017-09-14T10:21:28.732-04:00Hi, Miriam! Thanks for stopping by.
It is rath...Hi, Miriam! Thanks for stopping by. <br /><br />It is rather more like a hinge than a zipper--except for the removability of the pin that allows opening and closing of the bag. I didn't know bascinets used a feature of similar appearance! Thanks for the info, and the link.Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-58006612492456571002017-09-14T04:07:33.343-04:002017-09-14T04:07:33.343-04:00How fascinating! What it actually reminds me of mo...How fascinating! What it actually reminds me of most is not a zip but a hinge. If you peened the other end of the bronze pin over so that it couldn't be retracted, it'd basically be a hinge in leather.<br /><br />You get very similar hinges in 14th C bascinets with the 'houndskull' style of visor, allowing the visor to be completely removed. With those, the removable pin is attached to a short cord or chain to prevent it being lost. E.g. http://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/34272Miriamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07941566213672427040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-45159160027524615332017-09-14T04:03:33.106-04:002017-09-14T04:03:33.106-04:00Interesting! This is exactly the closure method on...Interesting! This is exactly the closure method on our medieval tents, though I've never seen anyone here (UK) use it for gambesons.Miriamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07941566213672427040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-8713935211965880992017-09-11T23:04:18.350-04:002017-09-11T23:04:18.350-04:00Interesting! I've never heard of the "zi...Interesting! I've never heard of the "zipper" approach you describe for SCA gambesons being used on clothing during the SCA period, though the Bronze Age "zipper" bag shows that someone thought of the concept at least. Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-52226067391080051692017-09-11T17:12:25.066-04:002017-09-11T17:12:25.066-04:00I have seen a number of SCA gambesons over the yea...I have seen a number of SCA gambesons over the years that use this sort of closure system, but with cloth loops instead. It is fiddly to put on, since each loop needs to go through the next (the final step is to put a single length through the last loop and tie it with a second single length). However, when one is ready to take it off, one need only untie that top loop, then the rest just comes open as one tugs on the gambeson to take it off, meaning that when one is over-heated or injured and wants out of armour quickly one can do it. I never realized that there was a period example of this approach.Kareinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00814809433276998563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-79008858647249697332017-09-11T13:22:58.699-04:002017-09-11T13:22:58.699-04:00Thank you for this link ... it is wonderful to see...Thank you for this link ... it is wonderful to see the inventfulness .. Elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03470810820417327936noreply@blogger.com