tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post8638650669512439839..comments2024-03-24T21:42:17.025-04:00Comments on Loose Threads: <small>Yet Another Costuming Blog</small>: The Hammerum Dress--the VideoCathy Raymondhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-51698454766829691602016-03-01T00:57:31.783-05:002016-03-01T00:57:31.783-05:00My impression from the video is that the dress was...My impression from the video is that the dress was a bit too narrow for the model; I would want a peplos dress that was a bit more than 145 cm (57 inches) in circumference, especially if it was being pinned at the shoulder with bone or wood pins the way the Hammerum dress seems to have been worn. My wrap apron dresses use a piece of cloth that is about 57 inches, but a tube pinned at the shoulders that's only 57 inches in width is a much narrower garment than a wrapped garment that can be worn around the breasts (like a sarong or a bath towel. Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-49364878596843937372016-02-29T20:17:32.314-05:002016-02-29T20:17:32.314-05:00I suspect the garment would settle into more comfo...I suspect the garment would settle into more comfortable draping if the model had moved around more before the video ended, particularly if she had done chores with tools from the era or carried a small child on her hip. I find my tube dresses more comfortable to wear and more like modern hourglass lines if I stretch and reach after belting. Regards Beth SchreiberAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-68890104509420819012016-02-25T22:03:05.006-05:002016-02-25T22:03:05.006-05:00Miesje, you're so right! The thought of all t...Miesje, you're so right! The thought of all the effort and knowledge it took just to set up the warp-weighted loom for weaving terrifies me.Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-86289396666664931532016-02-25T20:24:53.724-05:002016-02-25T20:24:53.724-05:00I've never been so appreciative of being able ...I've never been so appreciative of being able to buy cloth before.pumpkinseedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04801760532639725479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-59968835837172746192016-02-25T00:23:40.576-05:002016-02-25T00:23:40.576-05:00If you're interested in learning more about la...If you're interested in learning more about late Roman provincial clothing, check out Alexandra Croom's book, "Roman Clothing and Fashion", ISBN: 1848689772 (for the Dec. 2010 paperback edition) ISBN: 0752414690 (for the 2000 original hardback ed. by Tempus). Amazon has the ISBN-13 numbers for both if you care (I'm providing them because it helps get the right book if you give the info to the librarian for intralibrary loan).Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-89381339323983983412016-02-24T20:23:08.290-05:002016-02-24T20:23:08.290-05:00I see what you mean. Not only does it drape diffe...I see what you mean. Not only does it drape differently, it also sits quite differently on the model's shoulders.Stella Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05469996244394603024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-10265263720088321172016-02-24T16:46:09.386-05:002016-02-24T16:46:09.386-05:00It would have draped differently, even belted, if ...It would have draped differently, even belted, if the belt was going over the red peplos and an undergarment, too.Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-75145901451014918982016-02-24T16:34:49.054-05:002016-02-24T16:34:49.054-05:00And I believe that, by the third century CE, women...And I believe that, by the third century CE, women in the Roman provinces and outside the Empire proper were wearing peplos garments over long-sleeved, long tunics. See, e.g., this article from "Dressing the Past", which was published by Oxbow Books: https://www.academia.edu/1466298/_On_the_Borders_of_East_and_West_A_Reconstruction_of_Roman_Provincial_and_Barbarian_Dress_in_the_Hungarian_National_MuseumCathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-2820419081585580452016-02-24T14:58:03.658-05:002016-02-24T14:58:03.658-05:00That's a good point. It would look quite diff...That's a good point. It would look quite different with a linen tunic underneath, and linen undershirts are common throughout much of European history.Stella Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05469996244394603024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-15350156727490605282016-02-24T10:46:46.336-05:002016-02-24T10:46:46.336-05:00One thing I've wondered about this Hammerum gr...One thing I've wondered about this Hammerum grave is whether there were any linen garments in it that have not survived. We might not have any sign of them since linen survives so poorly in Scandinavian soil and there seem to have been no metal items in the grave that might have preserved linen bits. If the Hammerum dress was worn unbelted over, say, a long-sleeved linen tunic that was longer than the dress, it might have looked very different.Cathy Raymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04580681386443534011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2670213486548123819.post-75650924473794072532016-02-24T03:02:04.257-05:002016-02-24T03:02:04.257-05:00Thanks for sharing this. The video really does do...Thanks for sharing this. The video really does do a great job of explaining the process. It's a lovely fabric, but I agree the dress looks somewhat awkward by modern standards. I guess people's expectations of what clothes should look like have changed over time.Stella Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05469996244394603024noreply@blogger.com